Legislature(2013 - 2014)BUTROVICH 205

03/27/2013 03:30 PM Senate RESOURCES


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03:31:28 PM Start
03:31:45 PM HJR6
03:38:23 PM SB71
03:51:52 PM App Project Update
04:59:28 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
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*+ SB 71 PAYMENT OF FISHERY RESOURCE LANDING TAX TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
Presentation - Alaska Pipe Project
by the Department of Natural Resources
-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
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+= HJR 6 LEGACY OIL WELL CLEAN UP/AWARENESS; NPR-A TELECONFERENCED
Moved SCS HJR 6(RES) Out of Committee
         SB  71-PAYMENT OF FISHERY RESOURCE LANDING TAX                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
3:38:23 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL announced SB 71 to be up for consideration.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  MICCICHE, sponsor  of SB  71, said  this is  just a  bill                                                              
about fairness.  It really  just repairs  glitches in  the landing                                                              
resource tax  statutes and regulations.  It removes  the potential                                                              
for  unfair penalties  and  interest  by commercial  fishermen  by                                                              
changing the current  tax payment due date to align  with the date                                                              
the actual  data they  use for their  report is  due by  making it                                                              
due 30 days after.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
He explained  that  Section 1 aligns  the date  that the  resource                                                              
landing tax is due  with the date that the statewide  average fish                                                              
price report  is released.  Currently the report  is due  March 31                                                              
or  the last  day of  the month  following  a month  in which  the                                                              
state  publishes the  statewide prices,  but in  many cases  those                                                              
prices  aren't even  published when  the  report is  due. So,  the                                                              
mismatch in  time results in late  payment fines and  interest for                                                              
well-intentioned  producers.  This  measure  would  allow  fishing                                                              
families to spend  time fishing and not waste  time on unnecessary                                                              
government regulation that has no value.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Section 2  also changes the timing  of the estimated  tax payments                                                              
needed  to avoid estimated  tax  penalty to either  90 percent  of                                                              
the  amount calculated  by multiplying  the actual  price paid  at                                                              
the time  the fishery resource was  landed by the  appropriate tax                                                              
rate or  100 percent  of the  taxpayer's liability  for the  prior                                                              
year.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  MICCICHE  explained  that the  current  statute  includes                                                              
provisions  for four  equal quarterly  payments, but  that is  not                                                              
how fisheries work.  SB 71 allows fishermen to pay  their taxes in                                                              
periods  of time  when they  actually  fished. It  results in  the                                                              
same amount  but without the fines  for lateness they  can't help;                                                              
it creates  a fair and equitable  tax system by aligning  the date                                                              
of  the tax  with  the  actual report  that  is published  by  the                                                              
Alaska Department of Fish and Game (ADF&G).                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:40:43 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR FAIRCLOUGH  said she  wanted to  know from the  Department                                                              
of Revenue (DOR)  if the state actually has delinquent  taxes that                                                              
are being paid under this scenario.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
JOHANNA  BALES,  Deputy  Director,  Tax  Division,  Department  of                                                              
Revenue  (DOR),  Anchorage,  Alaska, answered  yes  and  explained                                                              
that  the taxpayers  try to  estimate the  payment and  pay it  by                                                              
April 1,  but they  are often underpaid.  However, the  department                                                              
does not  assess the penalty, because  they understand that  it is                                                              
reasonable cause.  But the taxpayers are subject  to interest that                                                              
is  currently at  11 percent  and  that causes  some hardship  for                                                              
some.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR FAIRCLOUGH  asked if anyone has overpaid the  tax that the                                                              
state is paying back the 11 percent interest.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. BALES  answered no  that hasn't  happened, because  by statute                                                              
even  though they  are required  to  pay interest,  they are  only                                                              
required  to if  they  don't issue  a refund  within  90 days  and                                                              
normally the department does that.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BISHOP  asked if  she had the  sponsor statement  in front                                                              
of her.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. BALES answered no, but that she had read it.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BISHOP  noted that the  fourth paragraph  says, "depending                                                              
on  the  fishery,  the current  statute  requires  payment  of  50                                                              
percent of the landing  taxes before they have even  left the dock                                                              
to go  fishing," and asked  if a taxpayer  is in arrears,  does he                                                              
have to pay 50  percent of that before being allowed  to leave the                                                              
dock to go fishing.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. BALES  replied that  could potentially  happen, because  right                                                              
now   the  estimated   payments   are  required   in  four   equal                                                              
installments that  begin with the  first of a fishing  year, which                                                              
would be of  the calendar year of  January 1. So, a  first payment                                                              
would  be  due  March  15 and  then  June  15,  September  15  and                                                              
December 15.  It is possible if  a fishery hasn't opened  yet that                                                              
a taxpayer will have to make a payment.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BISHOP  remarked that  they owe the  money but  they can't                                                              
leave the dock to go out and make the money to pay the debt.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MICCICHE  said they  are likely not  in arrears;  they are                                                              
paying taxes on fish yet to be caught and that is unfair.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR FAIRCLOUGH  wondered why the department hadn't  brought it                                                              
forward sooner, because it seems so unfair.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:44:45 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. BALES responded  that they have been aware of  this concern by                                                              
fishermen  and  have  talked to  different  legislators  about  it                                                              
before and nothing was done. But now seems to be a good time.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  FAIRCLOUGH  asked  if the  administration  supported  the                                                              
change.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BALES  said the  department  doesn't  oppose  it and  had  no                                                              
issues with doing it.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:46:13 PM                                                                                                                    
JULIANNE  CURRY, Executive  Director, United  Fishermen of  Alaska                                                              
(UFA), Juneau,  Alaska, supported  SB 71,  because it  will change                                                              
current  statutes regarding  the  timing and  requirement of  four                                                              
equal payments  in estimated  fisheries resource  landing  tax. SB
71  aligns the  due  date of  paying  the tax  with  the date  the                                                              
corresponding report  is due.  The report is  due March 31  or the                                                              
last  day of  the month  following the  month in  which the  state                                                              
publishes the  statewide prices  that must be  used on  the return                                                              
which generally  is in May,  but the tax is  due on April  1. This                                                              
mismatch  in timing  results in  late payment  fines and  interest                                                              
for   well-intentioned    producers   as   well    as   confusion,                                                              
frustration, and  wasted time that could best  be spent harvesting                                                              
and processing fish to increase revenue.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
The current statute  includes provisions for four  equal payments,                                                              
but  with   the  seasonal  nature   of  many  fisheries   and  the                                                              
variability  in harvest,  it's virtually  impossible for  resource                                                              
landing  taxpayers   to  accurately   predict  their   full-year's                                                              
harvest to calculate equal payments.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
She concluded  that SB 71  would create  a fair and  equitable tax                                                              
system by aligning the date of the tax with the report.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:48:09 PM                                                                                                                    
KATHY  HANSEN, Executive  Director,  Southeast Alaska  Fishermen's                                                              
Alliance  (SEAFA),  Juneau,  Alaska,  said  she  is  the  one  who                                                              
brought  this  legislation  to Senator  Micciche's  attention  and                                                              
thanked  him for introducing  it.  She didn't  know why it  hadn't                                                              
been  brought  forward earlier  other  than  that there  has  been                                                              
controversy over  the landing  tax in the  past. This  was brought                                                              
to her  attention by a  couple of her  members who didn't  want to                                                              
pay interest again  on not having accurately calculated  what they                                                              
thought  they owed.  It is  a fairness  issue,  but they  wouldn't                                                              
hear from  a lot of  people about it,  because it only  affects 67                                                              
landing taxpayers.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HANSEN  said they  had  received  a  letter from  the  Alaska                                                              
Scallop  Association, which  industry doesn't  even start  fishing                                                              
until  the third  quarter  of  the year.  This  is  an example  of                                                              
someone paying  two quarters  worth of tax  or just not  paying it                                                              
because  they don't  know  if they  will even  have  an income,  a                                                              
season or  how much they  will make and then  go back and  pay the                                                              
penalties.  These  are the  ones  that  are currently  paying  the                                                              
penalties.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:50:11 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR DYSON stated  that Ms. Bales said penalties  weren't being                                                              
paid just interest.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. CURRY  agreed that  is what  she said, but  she would  have to                                                              
check the  background information  she had  received. She  knew it                                                              
was interest for sure.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GIESSEL,   finding  no  further  comments,   closed  public                                                              
testimony and held SB 71 in committee.                                                                                          

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB 71 version A.pdf SRES 3/27/2013 3:30:00 PM
SB 71
SB 71 Sponsor Statement.PDF SRES 3/27/2013 3:30:00 PM
SB 71
SB 71 Fiscal Note DCCED-DCRA-03-22-13.pdf SRES 3/27/2013 3:30:00 PM
SB 71
SB 71-Fiscal note DOR-TAX-03-22-13.pdf SRES 3/27/2013 3:30:00 PM
SB 71
SB 71 Alaska Tax Division 2012 Annual Report.PDF SRES 3/27/2013 3:30:00 PM
SB 71
SB 71 Support - Alaska Scallop Association.pdf SRES 3/27/2013 3:30:00 PM
SB 71
SB 71 Support - Southeast Alaska Fishermen's Alliance.pdf SRES 3/27/2013 3:30:00 PM
SB 71
SB 71 Support - J&R Fisheries - 3-15-13.PDF SRES 3/27/2013 3:30:00 PM
SB 71
SB 71 UFA support SRES 03 25 13.pdf SRES 3/27/2013 3:30:00 PM
SB 71
SRES Presentation Commercializing NS Gas Update Sullivan 2013.03.27.pdf SRES 3/27/2013 3:30:00 PM
HJR 6 vs O.pdf SRES 3/27/2013 3:30:00 PM
HJR 6